Gesshin Kagekiyo 180mm White #2 Deba Bread Knives Near the spine they seem

Near the spine they seem to be more substantial

and the sayas that come with these are normal sayas instead of lacquered sayas

Weight: 773g

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but I recommend using something like the Gesshin 400 following this

Gesshin Kagekiyo 180mm White #2 Deba Bread Knives Near the spine they seemProduct Description Detailed Specs Measurements This is a new part of our Gesshin Kagekiyo series. Along the lines of our white #2 Gesshin Kagekiyo series, we thought it might be nice to add some more single bevel options. These knives represent some of the highest levels of craftsmanship and quality we have seen. The blacksmiths, sharpeners, and even lacquer ware craftsmen are all amazingly skilled, as can clearly be seen by simply looking at them.